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	<title>Comments on: What Counts as Regular Attendance?</title>
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		<title>By: beth barnett</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one of the biggest mind-benders for people who are hearing about Messy Church for the first time. It seems unimaginable that once a month could be a sustainable practice. Of course it isn&#039;t (well not as a means of creating genuine community)  - and what is healthy about the once a month rhythm of larger gatherings of Messy Church, is that it re-focusses attention on the micro and informal, serendipitous ways in which we express life in Christ together in complex matrices of human community, in the incarnational everyday of our families and households and neighbourhoods.

 The weekly &#039;dose of sermon&#039; habit as a mainstay of faith I think is one of the practices that has done the most damage to discipleship and mission in the church in the last 400 years, creating a dependency on someone else&#039;s theological reflections - instead of our own communal wrestle, creating a hierarchy of spirituality, when we should be watching and listening to our children, and the prophets amongst us, who are most likely the manic depressive, the homeless and the person washing the dishes. We have created a false sense of &#039;we need to grow spiritually&#039; - guilting us into attendance - except that when we realise that even if we attend 100% or 200% (going twice a week!) we actually don&#039;t &#039;grow&#039; any more, we get disillusioned, and so attend less.  Attendance - surely - is about expressing our commitment to the other, not about &#039;topping ourselves up&#039; (which seems anti-kenotic and greedy, really). While-ever church seems to be about &#039;what happens at the front&#039; and not about disciples discipling each other, and sharing the stories of God in our lives and doing the work of praying for the world God loves, attendance will remain frequently uncompelling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the biggest mind-benders for people who are hearing about Messy Church for the first time. It seems unimaginable that once a month could be a sustainable practice. Of course it isn&#8217;t (well not as a means of creating genuine community)  &#8211; and what is healthy about the once a month rhythm of larger gatherings of Messy Church, is that it re-focusses attention on the micro and informal, serendipitous ways in which we express life in Christ together in complex matrices of human community, in the incarnational everyday of our families and households and neighbourhoods.</p>
<p> The weekly &#8216;dose of sermon&#8217; habit as a mainstay of faith I think is one of the practices that has done the most damage to discipleship and mission in the church in the last 400 years, creating a dependency on someone else&#8217;s theological reflections &#8211; instead of our own communal wrestle, creating a hierarchy of spirituality, when we should be watching and listening to our children, and the prophets amongst us, who are most likely the manic depressive, the homeless and the person washing the dishes. We have created a false sense of &#8216;we need to grow spiritually&#8217; &#8211; guilting us into attendance &#8211; except that when we realise that even if we attend 100% or 200% (going twice a week!) we actually don&#8217;t &#8216;grow&#8217; any more, we get disillusioned, and so attend less.  Attendance &#8211; surely &#8211; is about expressing our commitment to the other, not about &#8216;topping ourselves up&#8217; (which seems anti-kenotic and greedy, really). While-ever church seems to be about &#8216;what happens at the front&#8217; and not about disciples discipling each other, and sharing the stories of God in our lives and doing the work of praying for the world God loves, attendance will remain frequently uncompelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Perraud</title>
		<link>http://davecsinos.com/2012/10/29/what-counts-as-regular-attendance/#comment-716</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating and something the church I attend is wrestling with. Things seem to be going well (really well)...so why doesn&#039;t it translate into Sunday morning attendance? I really appreciate your thoughts and for passing this along, Dave.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating and something the church I attend is wrestling with. Things seem to be going well (really well)&#8230;so why doesn&#8217;t it translate into Sunday morning attendance? I really appreciate your thoughts and for passing this along, Dave.</p>
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